Electrical Troubleshooting Quiz

Last month, a 200 hp motor started blowing fuses every few days. It's on its own branch circuit with no other loads. This motor runs only occasionally. It turns the compressor of a supplemental plant air system, charging a supply tank to 400 psi. It starts when pressure drops to 50 PSI. If plant air pressure drops below the main compressor's ability to keep up, the tank supplies 40 psi to the plant air system.

The fuses are the correct size and the same size used prior to this problem. There's no evidence of a fault, so why do those fuses keep blowing?

Even if they're the right size, fuses of the wrong type might not handle the inrush current. Don't just check to see that you're using dual element fuses instead of single element. Check to see that the rating is sufficient for this application. Make sure you review the fuse selection against the Section 430.52(C) of the 2011 NEC.

The problem may not be the fuses. How many restarts/hour is this motor getting? On the first start of the motor, when the windings are cool, inrush current may be below the threshold for blowing those fuses. But if the motor restarts several times in a short period, the windings will build up heat and the motor will require more current to start.

Look on the load side of the motor; problems with the compressor or load coupling may be increasing inrush current just enough to exceed the fuse rating. If you don't find the problem there, examine the input (power supply) and then the motor system (alignment, bearings, windings).

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Anonymous (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

If a standard motor starter is utilized for the motor control, vs. a VFD, consider checking for proper coil voltage and proper contactor engagemnet strength. If correct, be sure to check for wear and burning on the contacts themselves. Do to normal arcing and wear contacts may become carboned and will limit proper voltage through the contact creating increased amperage.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

Voltage drop may be an issue. The load, cable size and the distance should be confirmed to calculate the voltage drop.The voltage drop may not be the root cause but can be a contributing cause.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

If you have access to a good thermal imager usit it to scan the electrical connections. We had a situation where we were blowing the fuses in the MCC for a motor but not blowing the smaller fuses in the local disconnect. We found that a loose connection in the MCC was causing the problem. Unce the connection was cleanes and tightened the problem went away.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

Verify the pressure is acurate you could be starting against a higher pressure in the recieving tank which could intermittently cause the fuses to blow. The pressure switch could be bad or out of calibration.

Tim (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

I'd check the following:
1 contactor(s), both if lead/lag used
2 compressor motor bearings
3 reservior tank backcheck valves (400 psi is hell of a head!)

Louconstant1 (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

You stated that you have 200hp motor, need more info, name plate,voltage, amps, hp, three phase? Letter? Etc. motor type, wire size? Then we can determine and come up with a solution. Using 2011 NEC -NFPA
Thanks louconstant

Anonymous (not verified)
on Feb 26, 2013

call an electrician, lolzzz

Anonymous (not verified)
on Feb 27, 2013

Based on the information already submitted I would also check the power factor and see if power factor correction is faulty or necessary. A 200HP motor is a large load to be starting across the line. I definitely would use a VFD or soft-start device for that large of motor regardless. If you have test equipment a power quality analyzer measuring the start up wave-shapes would provide valuable information as to the problem by indicating uniformity, voltage and current magnitude, angle, etc.

sparky Jr. (not verified)
on Feb 27, 2013

Allways increase the wire size For 200 H.P You should
go up to the next size that will solve your problem remember I squared X ressistence= less Heat!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 11, 2013

A lot of great suggestions. Sounds like possible Harmonic Currents. Testing with a True RMS Volt meter and Amp meter will tell the difference.

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